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Potential copyvio farm

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Hi Túrelio, I noticed you deleted File:Rescuer onlooker at the landslide location on 01 August 2024.jpg after finding out it was a copyvio. I was looking into this user due to some disruption on en.wiki, and in addition to the copyright notices on their talkpage File:Participants in first summit.png seems to be taken directly from this site. The two current socks that have uploaded images are here and here. I actually tineyed them before I knew they were socks, and didn't find anything, but since becoming aware of the larger pattern the uploads seem potentially concerning. Best, Chipmunkdavis (talk) 16:01, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Anti-discrimination Students Movement procession on 2 August.webp

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How can a file under Creative Commons license be deleted for copyright infringement? On what grounds was it deleted? Was its license checked? - Ash wki (talk) 15:35, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Ash wki (talk) 15:35, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Where is the evidence that this photo has been put under a free license? The provided source doesn't say so. The author, who is the only who can release it under a CC-BY license, is unknown, as you claim. --Túrelio (talk) 20:25, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirecting to duplicate file

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It's absolutely unnecessary: File:Kenkichi Tomimoto and his family, end of 1917.jpg. — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 79.50.3.130 (talk) 07:39, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirects are created automatically by the duplicate-script. --Túrelio (talk) 09:33, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ok. 82.61.202.80 10:29, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Can you do the same redirects with these: File talk:Kenkichi Tomimoto and Shinichi Sasagawa, circa 1917-1918.jpg, File talk:Kenkichi Tomimoto (right) with unknown, circa 1917.jpg, File talk:Kenkichi Tomimoto and his daughter.jpg? Thank you. 82.61.202.80 10:36, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please, read very well my instructions: it's the opposite files to be redirected. Don't do the same error and invert immediately it for "Kenkichi Tomimoto & Shinichi Sasagawa" and "Kenkichi Tomimoto (1917)". 82.61.202.80 10:45, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Each one of the duplicate-files were protected (likely due to previous edit-warring). Therefore I had to redirect to the protected versions, not the other way round. --Túrelio (talk) 10:51, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"Yamamoto Heikichi" is very good, with the full page and the Japanese explanation. Can you redirect "Yamamoto Heikichi (1913)" to it? Thank you. 79.16.11.68 11:25, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Can you do it? 193.207.153.240 07:55, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've tagged the file. --Túrelio (talk) 10:23, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Can you delete "Yamamoto Heikichi (1913)"? It's only an exactly-scaled down of "Yamamoto Heikichi". Thank you. 193.207.108.147 12:48, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Can you do it? 79.18.119.157 10:33, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

About the File:Grapefruit Juice and Medicine May Not Mix (6774935740) - en.svg

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Hello, I would like to include the Spanish version of this image, but for any reason I made a bad job. I am rather new in wikipedia and learning... Can you tell me why you delete it, please? Thanks Beatriz.V1.0 (talk) 01:38, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ahhh...I can see, there is an Spanish version by Victor Atallah in X. Sorry I am not in X and I have no user in this social network. How to proceed? Beatriz.V1.0 (talk) 01:44, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, by "Spanish version" you mean a version where all the text is in spanish, right? You can access content on Twitter/X without having an own account. I doubt that the text in this diagram is above threshold of originality. So, you could simply copy it. On the other hand, as the original comes from the FDA and as Spanish is a relevant language in the U.S., the FDA might themselves have a Spanish version. --Túrelio (talk) 10:33, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, complete text in Spanish and yes, I can access the X, but I assume that X is not a confident source of information. I will try to get the files at FDA or contact them. Thanks --Túrelio. Beatriz.V1.0 (talk) 11:45, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Flag of Moldova (Project Lobachev).svg

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Hello! This file was initially deleted per deletion request on May 27, 2021 but was rapidly recreated without a permit on May 30, 2021 and used for cross-wiki misinformation by the now indefinitely blocked user. 81.23.165.9 09:38, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, sorry, I hadn't seen the past history. However, the file has now been protected by a colleague. So, before taking any action, first we need to come to an agreement/consensus. --Túrelio (talk) 10:35, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for answering! That protection is clearly wrong and unreasonable… But how can we come to an agreement if that colleague ignores requests? 81.23.164.45 09:59, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Chiedo scusa, invece che continuare a cancellarmi le foto e le modifiche che faccio, mi puoi dire dove diavolo sbaglio??? Almeno risolvo il problema una volta per tutte!!! La foto è mia, l'ho scattata io, non ci sono diritti sopra, è di libero utilizzo!! Se per cortesia mi dite COSA devo scrivere e DOVE mi fareste un favore. Continuare a cancellarmi tutto ogni settimana fa perdere tempo a me e a voi! RolanddiGilead1971 (talk) 10:56, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well, the most important question is whether YOU are really the photographer. I doubt that, as none of your uploads has metadata from the camera. In File:Emilie Haavi in azione con la maglia della Roma - stagione 23-24 2.jpeg you wrote "Foto scattata da un amico durante una partita di campionato e concessami in uso gratuito e libero per Wikipedia". As the other images are of a similar appearance, I assume at best that they come from the same "friend". If that is true, then 1) you cannot write "own work", and 2) your friend needs to personally confirm to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org (OTRS) that he/she agrees that his/her photos are released on Commons under a free license, that also allows commercial re-use. AFAIK, the same has been told to you already on your talkpage on :it.--Túrelio (talk) 11:04, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not a duplicate

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Please undo your deletion of File:Shanshan 2024 path.png. This is not a duplicate of File:Shanshan 2024 track.png because the former uses the new track colors and the latter the old track colors, as per en:Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Weather/Colour discussions. User:Supportstorm is defying the consensus by continuing to upload old-colored tracks, which are not to be used at all on Wikipedia. Jasper Deng (talk|meta) 22:47, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

✓ Done. --Túrelio (talk) 06:37, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

deleted page

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Hi!

I'm trying to develop a page for a mexican actor, why was it deleted? I was about to add IMDB and sources.

best regards Frv24 (talk) 20:54, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, your userpage User:Frv24 is not the right place to write/develop a page/article about another person. Use your talkpage for that or create a subpage, such as User talk:Frv24/Fernando Veloz for example. Anyway, Commons is not the place for articles, but just for files/media.--Túrelio (talk) 21:02, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Typhoon-Yagi 5.jpg

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Can you access the file? I purged the page for a few times, but at the end I only get File not found: /v1/AUTH_mw/wikipedia-commons-local-public.d5/d/d5/Typhoon-Yagi_5.jpg when I clicked into the image. What problem do you think it is?廣九直通車 (talk) 09:11, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. It is shown without any problem; I now checked all resolutions. If you have a second browser on your computer, eventually try it with that one. If it works well, it might be a cache-problem of the first browser. Just try to clear its cache. --Túrelio (talk) 09:16, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's strange. I tried my computer's Microsoft Edge and my phone's Google Chrome. None succeeded. Also the smaller resolutions returned 404 error. Maybe I'll send the matter to COM:VPT. Anyways thanks for clarifying the file is not broken.廣九直通車 (talk) 12:55, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Totentanz

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Hi Túrelio, ich habe den beschädigten Totentanz fotografiert und eine Unterkategorie angelegt, der ich die „destroyed“-Kategorie gegeben habe. Das Original wird ja wohl wieder restauriert werden … liebe Grüße aus Köln Elya (talk) 10:43, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Elya, perfekt. --Túrelio (talk) 10:53, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted duplicate

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Thanks for deleting File:Ümminger Straße 23 4.jpg. I'm not even sure how it's possible to upload a duplicate in a batch upload from a technical point of view...

If you don't mind, I think you can also delete the file redirect that was left behind. The duplicate wasn't used anywhere, so the redirect probably won't be missed. Nakonana (talk) 11:15, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

✓ Done. --Túrelio (talk) 14:07, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Danke :) Nakonana (talk) 14:56, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Letter from Selena at the Village Pump

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Hi Túrelio, I hope you're fine. Since you're an active admin and editor here, I wanted to flag a potentially interesting discussion at the Village Pump, started by Selena Deckelmann about finding a better way of supporting Commons. Maybe you can consider, if you have time, to share your thoughts? Thanks in advance! Sannita (WMF) (talk) 14:20, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please undo deletion

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You deleted my image here File:SwenksFairyBee.jpg. It is an image I took and I accidentally marked the observation as CC-BY-NC in iNaturalist Corevette (talk) 20:40, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, well it was first uploaded to iNaturalist and quite some months later to Commons. Please send a confirmation of the free license (without NC) for the Commons-file from your iNaturalist-account/address to permissons-commons@wikimedia.org (OTRS). --Túrelio (talk) 21:04, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Request to delete this redirect page quickly: File:Civil Ensign of Malta (1898–1923).svg

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The 1898 Maltese Red Ensign was not decommissioned until 1943, so this redirect link is no longer necessary. So I recommend deleting this redirect page. 反共抗獨光復民國 (talk) 04:59, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

✓ Done. --Túrelio (talk) 07:28, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Túrelio thank you. 反共抗獨光復民國 (talk) 07:54, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:People of the Royal Navy

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Please don't delete categories like this that are well-established and arguably correct. If the category is to be renamed (which should happen after a discussion) then at least a redirect should be left. This was NOT a valid speedy deletion.

See User_talk:Militum_professio_scriniarii#Renaming_well-established_categories Andy Dingley (talk) 20:02, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Restored. --Túrelio (talk) 10:54, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please undo deletion

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Please restore these files: File:Sea otter skull.jpg File:Sea otter skull 2.jpg File:Sea otter skull 3.jpg File:Peach-throated monitor (Varanus jobiensis).jpg. I know you said they were CC BY-NC, but please look at the source again because the iNaturalist entries are marked as CC0. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/127403691 https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/133066120 Also, please restore: File:Varanus albigularis angolensis.jpg. The source is CC BY-SA: https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/196212391 Bloopityboop (talk) 23:35, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Restored now. Sorry for that; i had relied on the tagger of the file. --Túrelio (talk) 10:55, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No worries, and many thanks for the speedy response! Bloopityboop (talk) 21:49, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

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The Administrator's Barnstar
Just for doing what you do! Thanks. Nv8200p (talk) 15:21, 20 September 2024 (UTC))[reply]

File:B.D.U logo.jpg

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Why the file did not qualify for G7-speedy? 98Tigerius (talk) 07:52, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Because it was uploaded >7 days ago and is still in use. You may open a regular deletion-request (w. discussion), but should first offer/look for a replacement for its current uses.--Túrelio (talk) 09:02, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded less than seven days? Is that what you mean? I'm confused as I uploaded the file in June. 98Tigerius (talk) 09:28, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. Within 7 days after upload, the uploader can request speedy-deletion for whathever reason, provided the image is not in use on any Wikimedia-project. Outside of these conditions you can request (regular) deletion, which is open for discussion. --Túrelio (talk) 09:35, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Alright I understand and noted that. Thank you. 98Tigerius (talk) 09:40, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Mimics.jpg

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This image has no permission, probably sourced from Facebook. Is there any VRT permission? The way of Changpian (talk) 00:07, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Already deleted by colleague Krd, who is also OTRS/VRT-volunteer, as opposed to me. --Túrelio (talk) 07:49, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

واگردانی پرونده

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با سلام شما دو پرونده من رو حذف کردید. این پرونده ها اثر خودم هستند و نباید حذف شوند. لطفا زحمات من رو نادیده نگیرید. Hooman.nrz (talk) 07:25, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, which files are you talking about? --Túrelio (talk) 07:50, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please undelete two deletion

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Would you please undelete:

because they had four or five images + a heading/subdivision before the requester emptied the gallery pages + asked for a speedy deletion? I think before deleting such galleries they at least deserve a proper deletion request, not a speedy deletion (which is for galleries with less than two images). See Commons:Administrators' noticeboard for more information. JopkeB (talk) 07:52, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

✓ Done. --Túrelio (talk) 07:54, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for this quick action! JopkeB (talk) 07:58, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Currently quite a number of additional "Rosa xxx"-galleries are speedy-tagged: Category:Other speedy deletions. --Túrelio (talk) 08:09, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't care that the galleries were restored but appreciate it if @JopkeB: stopped lying that GA1 only applies to galleries with less than two images. That's clearly not what the guideline says and I don't think pages should be restored purely because of patently false information. Otherwise there's zero point in wasting the time doing this.
BTW JopkeB there's been several times recently where I Deferred to you about something even though I thought you were wrong. I'm not aaying your obligated to return that, but you might want to think about if coming after me over this just because of a couple pointless galleries that don't have any views anyway is really worth it. I could really give a crap about two or three galleries at the end of the day, but its really not collaborative or conducive of a civil atmosphere to make this much of an issue out of it when I've more then gone out of my way to accommodate you even when you were clearly wrong. The galleries are meaningless, the needless drama on your end over it just makes me not want to work with you anymore though and personally I think that would be a loss to the project. Since I think we've done some good work together. So maybe think about it if its really worth it on your end. --Adamant1 (talk) 08:26, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As a side to that Túrelio someone on the admin board suggested she take it to the undeletion request board. I think that would have been the better option here. Maybe think doing it that way instead next time. There's normal proccess for dealing with things like this and there's no reason a page should be undeleted the second someone asks an admin about it. Especially in cases like this where the reason for the request is clearly baseless. --Adamant1 (talk) 08:41, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Request deleted this redirect page (File:Blue Ensign of South Africa (1910–1928).svg).

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I would like to request that this file (File:Blue Ensign of South Africa (1910-1928).svg) be renamed to File:Blue Ensign of South Africa (1910–1928).svg, but I found that the File:Blue Ensign of South Africa (1910–1928).svg target page is already taken. Could you please delete this redirect page (File:Blue Ensign of South Africa (1910–1928).svg)? Thank you. Because I need to make room for my request to be renamed and moved to File:Blue Ensign of South Africa (1910–1928).svg. 反共抗獨光復民國 (talk) 09:38, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Túrelio Could you please delete this redirect page (File:Blue Ensign of South Africa (1910–1928).svg)? 反共抗獨光復民國 (talk) 03:21, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
✓ Done. --Túrelio (talk) 18:58, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Túrelio okay, thank you. 反共抗獨光復民國 (talk) 02:25, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Restore file

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Dear Túrelio please restore the file File:Virginio Simonelli shot by Marco Melfi.jpg that you deleted, the person who uploaded the file is the photographer Marco Melfi, and so the copyright owner, of the image. I complimented him on his work one day and I mentioned that Italian singer-songwriter Virginio Simonelli has a very old picture on his Wikipedia page and that one of his pictures would look great there (because I always update the page and it's annoying to see a really old picture on the page, as the one that appears now). So the photographer actually offered to upload one of his images, and he did so by himself. Indeed, he used his personal mail to create the wiki commons account, and you can easily check that if you contact him on that mail, I'm sure he is willing to offer whatever piece of information to confirm that it is him, because he wanted the picture to be used freely for Wikipedia because he considered it a homage to the community. Please, check what you have to check, but restore the file. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ravenlions (talk • contribs)

Ok. I've undeleted it and tagged it with permission-pending. --Túrelio (talk) 18:43, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, thank you. I asked the photographer if he sent the email to confirm his identity and he said yes. How many days could it take for it to be verified? So that I know when to come back to relink it to the singer's page. Thanks! Ravenlions (talk) 18:45, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As I've restored the file already, you could link it already. Usually the OTRS/VRT-volunteers act rather swiftly and change the tag already when the permission-email has arrived (even if not evaluated). --Túrelio (talk) 18:56, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Got it. Thanks! Ravenlions (talk) 21:01, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete file

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Please delete this file: File:Alan Eugene Miller.jpg It has been uploaded incorrectly, it is not the uploaders own work and is from the Alabama DOC. Inexpiable (talk) 21:32, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I recommend deleting these nine files and removing them from all pages that reference them.

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I found that four of the SVGs are purely imaginary flags. Yukon never had its own official flag before 1967, and the so-called "Yukon Blue Ensign" is purely fictional. The so-called "Red Ensigns of the Colony of Antigua and Barbuda" is purely a creation of FOTW netizens, because the British government and the colonial government of Antigua never issued a red ensigns for it. In addition, the so-called "Red Ensign of the Trust Territory of Samoa" is also a creation of FOTW netizens. The civil ensign of Samoa during the New Zealand Trusteeship actually directly used the New Zealand Red Ensign. The other five SVG vectors already have better alternatives. Could I request that all nine SVG vector images (File:Red Ensign of Antigua and Barbuda (1956–1962).svg, File:Red Ensign of Antigua and Barbuda (1962–1967).svg, File:Blue Ensign of the Yukon Territory.svg, File:Ensign of the Samoa Trust Territory.svg, File:Red Ensign of Nigeria (1914-1952).svg, File:Red Ensign of Nigeria (1952-1960).svg, File:Red Ensign of the Solomon Islands (1947-1956).svg, File:Red Ensign of the Solomon Islands (1956-1966).svg and File:Red Ensign of the Solomon Islands (1966-1977).svg) be quickly delete and removed from all referenced Wikipedia pages? Thank you. 反共抗獨光復民國 (talk) 03:00, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Use of your image out of Wiki

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Hey!

I am a screen printer in Hungary. I am making prints about Budapest. I've just found your image about the buda castle on wiki. I downloaded before and turns out, it is mixed with my copyright free images on my pc, i thought i am able to use it and then i made a 20-30 screen print from it. I totally change almost everything on the pic, but it is still yours. Can i get permission to sell this series in my way, then i wont use it if you say it cant be used anymore.. of course i can show you how it looks, and send you a one of them. :) 2001:4C4C:1551:1D00:0:0:0:1001 13:17, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Unknown,
sure. My images, as all on Commons, are under a license that freely allows commercial use. The only thing necessary is to credit me. And I would be glad to receive a link to you finalized work. --Túrelio (talk) 18:23, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding the file that you deleted just now

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There was a speedy delete tag but I didn't see the rationale, as there was already a regular deletion request where I argued that the file is potentially not a copyvio. Could you please review? https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Основатель_WildJam_Ярослав_Андреев_(Эльф-торговец).jpg Nakonana (talk) 20:22, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Commented in DR. --Túrelio (talk) 20:28, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks :) Nakonana (talk) 20:36, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Conservatoire Berliet

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Hallo Túrelio, ich verstehe die Löschung der Seite nicht. Ich hatte sie vor Jahren angelegt und befüllt. Benutzer:Kev22 hat sie ohne Angabe von Gründen geleert. Jemand hat sie zur Schnelllöschung vorgeschlagen. Ich habe es relativ schnell gesehen und sofort Einspruch eingelegt, siehe Webarchiv. Trotzdem hast Du die Kategorie gelöscht mit der Begründung ((incorrectly named) duplicate, content moved to Category:Fondation Marius Berliet). Das Conservatoire Berliet ist nicht falsch benannt. Wie ich in meinem Einspruch schrieb: Fondation und Conservatoire sind 2 verschiedene Dinge, auch wenn die Fondation das Conservatoire betreibt. Die Fondation ist die Stiftung, hat ein Gebäude in Lyon-Innenstadt mit Büros, Archiv und präsentiert dort ein altes Auto. 35 km entfernt in Le Montellier befindet sich das Conservatoire - das ist die große Fahrzeugsammlung mit 200 Fahrzeugen. Die meisten Fotos in der Category:Fondation Marius Berliet zeigen Fahrzeuge aus dem Conservatoire. Bitte stelle die Kategorie wieder her, damit sie sinnvoll beschriftet und gefüllt werden kann. Gruß Buch-t (talk) 06:30, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hallo @Buch-t, ich wusste nicht, dass sie vorher geleert worden war. Ich habe sie jetzt erst einmal wieder hergestellt auf den Stand vor der speedy-Markierung. --Túrelio (talk) 09:11, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ich habe die Kategorie wieder befüllt und die Beschreibung angepasst. Mal sehen, ob Kev22 diskutieren möchte. --Buch-t (talk) 10:42, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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