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Edit requests
I will make several edit requests in this thread (separately so they can be discussed individually).
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The page says Please use the search box at the top of this page or the links to the right. Feel free to subscribe to our syndicated feeds. but on mobile, which by now could well be how the majority of people land on this page by now, the links are not "on the right" but down.
Please change it so that it says "further down" on the mobile site (I think there already is something that does change the content depending on whether it's the mobile site) and link to that section with Template:Visible anchor (or something similar) so that the user can just jump to it to see what is meant.
Being able to jump to/highlight the section is very useful for people who find the page confusing and don't want to search around to find what is meant. I mean {{vanchor|Content}} and [[#Content|the links to the right]] which should render as Content
and the links to the right
. I think the Content box is the most useful thing of the entire page and a bit buried by all the other tiles and texts. Prototyperspective (talk) 17:44, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- Could somebody implement this, it's been 21 days and this sentence is clearly false for mobile users which may well be the majority of the site's users by now. Prototyperspective (talk) 22:09, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- I think this could be done with Extension:MobileDetect by which one could put the words into <nomobile> and <mobileonly> tags. It doesn't seem to work on Commons and I don't know if there is an alternative way to show text depending on the viewmode (mobile or not). Alternatively, please simply change it to something like the links in the Content box (not specifying whether the tile is on the right or down). I think it would be best to highlight the box when clicking on that page section link and I don't know of a way to highlight the whole tile rather than only the header via Template:Visible anchor but that would be better than no highlighting at all because users may be confused what is being referred to. Prototyperspective (talk) 23:25, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- Could you instead rephrase this as "or the content links section on this page" and link to the relevant section?
- Generally I would discourage use of mobile only markup as my experience typically it is poorly implemented by templates.
- Layout is evolving and can vary across skins, font size and browser zoom. In Vector 2022 for example layout is also impacted by whether you have both side menus open. Jdlrobson (talk) 09:23, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- This would also be good and maybe better. If making the text responsive to which type of device is used one may "use media queries and the skin classes and fix the templatestyles" according to the latest comment in the VP/T thread but I don't know how well or even if that would currently work. A problem I noticed only after my 16 Aug comment is that it may be the case that it's referring to not only the Content box but also the "Highlights" tile on the right. So I think either the Content tile should be highlighted regardless as it seems to be a closer and more comprehensive fit to what is being referred to (and also I think the most useful thing in the Main page content especially for people looking to explore or search) or the two tiles be put into one div and highlighted at once.
- Alternatives would include merging the two tiles with highlighted media being directly above or below "By topic" of the tile and "Meet our photographers and Meet our illustrators" getting moved into the "Participating" tile. I think I would support that but it would be a larger undertaking than simply highlighting both tiles for now or the Content tile.
- Maybe I should rather make these edit requests at Template:Main Page Template (please let me know if either is clearly preferred). Prototyperspective (talk) 16:55, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- I think this could be done with Extension:MobileDetect by which one could put the words into <nomobile> and <mobileonly> tags. It doesn't seem to work on Commons and I don't know if there is an alternative way to show text depending on the viewmode (mobile or not). Alternatively, please simply change it to something like the links in the Content box (not specifying whether the tile is on the right or down). I think it would be best to highlight the box when clicking on that page section link and I don't know of a way to highlight the whole tile rather than only the header via Template:Visible anchor but that would be better than no highlighting at all because users may be confused what is being referred to. Prototyperspective (talk) 23:25, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- Prototyperspective, Done using {{If mobile}} template. At least in English version. Please check if it works and ping me if further action is needed. --Jarekt (talk) 16:45, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks! However, you changed something else – this request referred to the part or the links to the right but you changed the search box at the top which on mobile also is at the top of the page.
- 2. On desktop those are not at the top but at the right of the page.
- 3. Since there are many things on the right and the user, especially new ones, may be confused what exactly is meant I above suggested to link to the tile(s) that is referred to. This could be done via the vanchor template (here linking to #Content or other methods. I'd suggest to simply use the vanchor template and maybe improve it later on. Like this:
Please use the search box at the top of this page or {{If mobile|[[#Content|the links further down]]|[[#Content|the links to the right]]}}.
- then at
|Content=Content
that would be changed to|Content={{visible anchor|Content}}
which enables jumping right to it with highlighting wherever it is on the page. Prototyperspective (talk) 21:37, 28 August 2024 (UTC)- @Jarekt: It doesn't work as it's not the part I described with not "on the right" but down. Prototyperspective (talk) 21:26, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Matrix and GPSLeo: Please see above and correct this, this made the Main page text more inaccurate than it was before I made this edit request over a month ago. --Prototyperspective (talk) 17:07, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- I would just write "use the search box" without anything about the position. If someone finds this tiny text the person likely already saw the search box. GPSLeo (talk) 17:34, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- I don't know why people still confuse which part I mean to change. This is not about the search box and in the previous comment I just clarified it. I feel like the first paragraph underneath 1) is quite clear so I don't know how to make it clearer. Prototyperspective (talk) 22:13, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- I would just write "use the search box" without anything about the position. If someone finds this tiny text the person likely already saw the search box. GPSLeo (talk) 17:34, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks! However, you changed something else – this request referred to the part or the links to the right but you changed the search box at the top which on mobile also is at the top of the page.
- Prototyperspective, Done I hope I got it this time. --Jarekt (talk) 02:32, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, thank you! Now the only issue left is that it does not jump to the Content section when clicking the section link. This can be solved by changing
|Content=Content
to|Content={{visible anchor|Content}}
– could you also implement that? I think Template:Visible anchor would get protected after the change and it would probably be good to set that template to protected anyway. I've implemented these changes at Hauptseite, a translated version of the Main page. Prototyperspective (talk) 15:39, 3 September 2024 (UTC)- Please implement this and also the request by Aschroet (talk · contribs) to fix the Wikifunctions link at the bottom of the page. Prototyperspective (talk) 11:19, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, thank you! Now the only issue left is that it does not jump to the Content section when clicking the section link. This can be solved by changing
Proposal to link featured galleries and Atlas of the World from Commons main page
There is a discussion here, and a proposal to vote here, to include a link to Wikimedia Commons Atlas of the World and from "Content -> By topic", at Commons main page. I propose a new topic, Maps, with the title linking to , and one link inside the new topic, for Atlas of the World.
Adding a link to featured galleries from main page has also been proposed (first there should be featured galleries, I think there aren't; the link should be in Highlights section, as is the link to featured pictures).
I'm including this proposals here as asked by JopkeB on Village Pump. MGeog2022 (talk) 18:30, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
POTD English caption, 2024-09-23
Hey! Noticed that today's English caption for POTD (Template:Potd/2024-09-23 (en)) doesn't make grammatical sense. The current caption is
- Realistic Earth drawn from the 2016 global composite map showing the city's night lights.
but I think a better one would be
- Realistic Earth drawn from the 2016 global composite map showing night lights from Asia and the Middle East.
Which is closer to the title article anyway. Pretzelles (talk) 14:38, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
Links to sister projects
Hi everyone, in the bottom part of the Main Page with the icons to sister projects there is one broken link and some inconsistencies. The broken link is to Wikifunctions: https://www.wikifunctions.org/wiki/Wikifunctions:Main_Page/en. Furthermore most links have the pattern https://somewiki.org/en: but for example MediaWiki links to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Template:Main_page/en. Maybe some could got throw these links and repair resp. unify them. Thank you in advance, --Arnd 🇺🇦 (talk) 18:47, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
No en caption for MOTD 2024-10-03
Missing Template:Motd/2024-10-03 (en) Jnestorius (talk) 20:31, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for asking about it! I asked the user to add en captions to the files he adds to the MOTD and he did not reply nor was there any action so far by anybody else in regards to adding MOTD files without captions. I previously asked another user here but apparently it wasn't the same user. I think adding captions should be a requirement where the burden is on the person adding to the MOTD and those without captions should be replaced. Prototyperspective (talk) 20:41, 3 October 2024 (UTC)